[Therc]

Hi, ich habe vor genau so wie Xenif mit einem Grindingbuild möglichst schnell auf 60 zu kommen. Nur fande ich in Xenif's Grinding Build einige Talente (wie zB improved kick) ziemlich unnötig und hab deshalb was neues gebaut, was sich stark auf möglichst viele combopunkte, viel schaden ohne stealth und defensive (durch lightning reflexes und deflection) konzentriert.

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Class: Rogue
Level: 60


Assassination Talents (20 points)

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Murder

- 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Improved Slice and Dice - 1/3 point
Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 15%.

# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.



Combat Talents (31 points)

# Improved Gouge - 3/3 points
Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 seconds.

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 5/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Precision - 5/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.

# Dual Wield Specialization - 5/5 points
Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 50%.

# Blade Flurry - 1/1 point
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 seconds.

# Aggression - 3/3 points
Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.

# Adrenaline Rush - 1/1 point
Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 seconds.



Subtlety Talents (0 points)

# None



Ist das ok so, oder hab ich was wichtiges übersehen?

Hast du schon im Lösungsbuch nachgelesen? Eventuell hilft dir das ja weiter...

[Solmyr77]

Wenn es ein designiertes PvE-Talent gibt, dann ist das Remorseless Attacks. Kombinieren sollte man dies mit einem Dolch-Opener(Ambush oder CS-BS) für eine fast 100%ige Critchance bei jedem ersten Hit. Richtig lustig wirds mit Seal Fate, wenn Crits noch Bonus-CPs geben.

Ein weiteres PvE-Talent ist Improved Instant Poison, hast Du auch nicht. Gegen gute Grindmobs hat man auf beiden Waffen insta psn und das Talent erhöht die Procchance von 20 auf 30%.

Was Du vorhast, ist ein simpler Combat-Build, der seine PvE-Stärken aus BF und AR bezieht, das wars aber auch.

[reality]

ist trotzdem nicht übel zum grinden^^

[Therc]

Seal Fate 5 bekomme ich nicht eingebaut ohne Blade Flurry wegzunehmen, da geht nur Seal Fate 3. Wenn man etwas wegnimmt um sich SF zu holen schaut das bei mir so aus :

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Class: Rogue
Level: 60


Assassination Talents (30 points)

# Remorseless Attacks - 5/5 points
After killing an opponent that yields experience, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike.

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

# Improved Instant Poison - 5/5 points
Increases the chance to apply Instant Poison to your target by 10%.

# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

# Seal Fate - 3/5 points
Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 60% chance to add an additional combo point.



Combat Talents (21 points)

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 5/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Improved Backstab - 3/3 points
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

# Precision - 4/5 points
Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 4%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.

# Blade Flurry - 1/1 point
Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 seconds.



Subtlety Talents (0 points)

# None

[Solmyr77]

Sieht schon besser aus, aber Du solltest bedenken, dass Dir BF so nix bringt zum lvln, das wäre der Punkt, den Du mit 60 verteilst. Remorseless kann und sollte man sehr früh holen(hab es spät respecced). Nach Imp Sini 2/2 und eben RA sollte man dann überlegen, ob man lieber Seal Fate oder BF will. Dort geht man dann entweder direkt hin oder über den Umweg Imp BS 3/3 oder Imp Ambush 3/3 falls guter Dolch vorhanden.

Meine persönlich besten Grindsessions hatte ich pre Patch mit SF 5/5 und RA 5/5, das gab selbst bei Sini meistens 3 Punkte zum Start eines Kampfes. Ohne den Priest hätt ich wohl sowas wie oben beschrieben gemacht.

[Therc]

Naja auf 60 werde ich eh umspeccen geht mir nur ums Leveln.

So, Final Version wird wohl das hier:

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Class: Rogue
Level: 60


Assassination Talents (38 points)

# Remorseless Attacks - 5/5 points
After killing an opponent that yields experience, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike.

# Improved Eviscerate - 3/3 points
Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

# Malice - 5/5 points
Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

# Ruthlessness - 3/3 points
Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

# Improved Slice and Dice - 3/3 points
Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 45%.

# Murder - 2/2 points
Increases your chance to hit while using your Sap, Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot abilities by 5%.

# Lethality - 5/5 points
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ambush, Ghostly Strike, or Hemorrhage ability by 30%.

# Relentless Strikes - 1/1 point
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

# Improved Instant Poison - 5/5 points
Increases the chance to apply Instant Poison to your target by 10%.

# Cold Blood - 1/1 point
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

# Seal Fate - 5/5 points
Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 100% chance to add an additional combo point.



Combat Talents (13 points)

# Improved Sinister Strike - 2/2 points
Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5 Energy.

# Lightning Reflexes - 5/5 points
Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

# Deflection - 5/5 points
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

# Riposte - 1/1 point
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 seconds.



Subtlety Talents (0 points)

# None

[Arwald]

hm also ich muss sagen das ich mit einem normalen Build fast schneller leveln kann. Ambush, Stun, Meucheln, Finish und auf zum nächsten Feind.